A
Complaint To The College of
Social
Workers and Social Service Workers
Re: Pierre Viger
(RSW) Ottawa – C.A.S. Refusal to comply with section 68(1) of the Ontario
Child and Family Services Act
This document contains the third step in
filing a complaint against a registered Social Worker with the College of
Social Workers and Social Service Workers, a body which licenses and regulates
Registered Social Workers and Social Service Workers.
The Foster Care Council of Canada
www.afterfostercare.com
john@afterfostercare.com
Date:
August
10, 2004
Original Complaint Registered By:
John Dunn
Complaint Registered Against:
Pierre Viger R.S.W. – Ottawa C.A.S. – Director, Professional Standards
Complaint Issued:
Pierre Viger refusing to produce C.A.S. Written Complaint Procedure
on request in violation of CFSA 68(1)
Document Status:
Third Submission To College
1st Complaint by
John Dunn / 2nd
Response by Pierre Viger / 3rd Reply by John Dunn
Attn
Marlene Zagdanski:
Before I proceed with my reply to Pierre Viger’s response to my
complaint, I would like to state first and foremost, that I have met Pierre
Viger in person while I was acting as a support person to a C.A.S. client during
an unrelated complaint review meeting. During the meeting Pierre Viger was very
professional with me, and I with him. We shook hands, greeted each other, and
continued with our business. Pierre Viger was pleasant, polite, and professional
in his dealings with me, and this is to be noted.
Secondly, I would like to present Section 68(1) of the Child and Family
Services Act (CFSA) which I will refer to quite often in this document. Section
68(1) of the CFSA states the following:
68 (1) A
society shall establish a written review procedure, which shall be approved by a
Director, for hearing and dealing with complaints by any person regarding
services sought or received from the society, and shall make the review
procedure available to any person on request.
Original Complaint: My complaint originally referred to
the fact that Pierre Viger (R.S.W.) intentionally violated Section 68(1) of the
CFSA by refusing numerous times, to make available on request, a copy of the
Children’s Aid Society’s written Complaint Review Procedure. As this is the
focus of my complaint, I am a little confused as to the reason Pierre Viger
enclosed correspondence concerning an entirely unrelated case.
Pierre Viger mentioned in his response, that the reason they were not
communicating with me via email was out of concern for a breach of
confidentiality. Whereas I submit, that requesting a copy of their written
complaint procedure does not place anyone in a position of violating
confidentiality laws and / or requirements regardless of my history, but it does
place him in a position of intentionally violating section 68(1) of the CFSA.
Reason
For The Complaint To The College: The reason I requested the written
complaint procedure from the Society, is because a client of the Children’s
Aid Society of Ottawa-Carleton informed me that the C.A.S. has refused to give
that client a copy of the complaint procedure on their request. When I learned
of this behavior from the C.A.S., I decided to request a copy of the written
complaint procedure myself to see how this request is handled by the C.A.S. I
would also like to have a copy of the written complaint procedure for further
advocacy work that I will be conducting with the Children’s Aid Society in the
future. I made that request through Pierre Viger, as he is the Director of
Professional Standards and as such I expected that he would be familiar with the
Society’s written complaint procedure, and would have a complete understanding
of Section 68(1) of the CFSA which gives both clients of the Society and the
general public a right to obtain a copy of it on request.
I therefore
deem most of the documents submitted by Pierre Viger in his response to my
complaint to be irrelevant and potentially confusing or distracting as to the
exact nature of this complaint to the College, excepting of course his original
written response to the College which I will endeavor to clarify as is permitted
at this stage in the complaint process with the College.
Summary:
I would like to remind you that my complaint is strictly confined to Pierre
Viger’s refusal to comply with Section 68(1) of the CFSA. Please do not let
the additional documents attached to Pierre Viger’s response distract you from
the actual complaint… a common tactic used by the Society. I would also like
to state that it is of vital importance that the actual written complaint
procedure be made available to the clients via the web site AND at the front
desk or waiting area of all C.A.S. agencies as clients are often intimidated and
in a position of disempowerment with the agency, which is unfair to force them
to have to talk directly to the agency they are complaining about in order to
obtain the rules for making that complaint. This is a tactic of intimidation to
reduce the number of complaints that are lodged against them. When the Council
obtains a copy of the written complaint procedure, we will make it available
through our web site so clients can download it easily without feeling fear, or
intimidation. We will also assist them in making their complaints with their
permission.
Thank you
for your time and effort on this matter. I will now continue with clarifying the
statements made by Pierre Viger as is permitted at this stage of the complaint
process with the College simply for clarification purposes although mostly
unrelated to this complaint.
Thank-you,
John Dunn
Pierre Viger (RSW) wrote:
1.
John
Dunn is not, nor has been, a client of mine. He is not, nor has been, a client
of the Children’s Aid Society of Ottawa (Ottawa CAS) which employs me. As
such, Mr. Dunn would not be entitled to a client complaint review under sec. 68
of the Child and Family Services Act (CFSA) which is meant for a person who has
“received or sought services from a society”. Of note, Children’s Aid
Societies are not subject to the Freedom of Information and Protection of
Privacy Act (FIPPA). Neither my organization, nor I have any statutory
obligations or requirements with respect to Mr. Dunn as a client under the CFSA
or as an applicant under FIPPA.
My
reply:
It is true
that I am not, nor have I ever been a client of Pierre Viger’s. It is also
true, that I am not, or have I ever been, a client of the Children’s Aid
Society of Ottawa-Carleton which employs Pierre Viger. However, in answer to
Pierre Viger’s inaccurate and misleading statement above, I HAVE received
services from a Society, as I was a Crown Ward of the Catholic Children’s Aid
Society, along with my brother Ronnie, for sixteen years. During that time, we
were moved through thirteen different foster homes and approximately ten
different schools. As for section 68(1) of the CFSA, it states the following:
68 (1) A
society shall establish a written review procedure, which shall be approved by a
Director, for hearing and dealing with complaints by any person regarding
services sought or received from the society, and shall make the review
procedure available to any person on request.
“Society”
is defined in Section 3 (1) of the CFSA as follows:
“society”
means an approved agency designated as a children’s aid society under
subsection 15 (2) of Part I (Flexible Services); (“société”)
Section 68
(1) of the CFSA can be read on the internet at:
http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/DBLaws/Statutes/English/90c11_e.htm#68.(1)
Whereas the
CFSA Section 68(1), states that “ANY
PERSON” can file a complaint “regarding
services sought or received from the Society” and that the Society “shall
make the review procedure available to any person on request”,
Pierre Viger’s response has unfortunately changed the wording of the Act to
meet his own needs in defending himself from this complaint to the College,
which I find to be unethical behavior for an RSW.
Pierre
Viger continues to say that he has no “statutory obligations or
requirements” under the CFSA to me, yet Pierre Viger, as Director of
Professional Standards of the Children’s Aid Society of Ottawa-Carleton, does
in fact have a statutory obligation to provide me, or anyone else, a copy of the
written complaint procedure on request, regardless of whether or not they are a
client or former client of the agency, as is stated in the last sentence of
section 68(1) of the CFSA (see above).
As the
Director of Professional Standards of the Children’s Aid Society of
Ottawa-Carleton, I would expect that Pierre Viger would have a very clear
understanding of section 68(1) of the CFSA. I have come to this conclusion due
to the fact that complaints are common-place at the Children’s Aid Society of
Ottawa-Carleton due to the very nature of the business conducted by the agency,
and due to the fact that Pierre Viger is regularly a part of those complaint
procedures / reviews. I have seen his name in other cases as well.
Pierre
Viger’s statement concerning FIPPA is also completely irrelevant to this
complaint. Please Disregard.
Pierre
wrote:
2.
I
am aware that Mr. Dunn presents himself as the Executive Director of “The
Foster Care Council of Canada”. To my knowledge, this organization has no
known or disclosed membership, board of directors or source of funding. It has
no known affiliation with any Children’s Aid Society or legitimate foster care
organization. Neither my organization nor I have any statutory obligations or
requirements with respect to Mr. Dunn as the Executive Director of “The Foster
Care Council of Canada”.
My
reply:
It is true
that I present myself as the Executive Director of “The Foster Care Council of
Canada” as this is my position within the Council. As the Council is new, we
have not posted all members of the board on our site, and as of yet, have not
begun to advertise for membership. With regard to funding, true advocacy does
not require funding. True advocacy, relies on people who genuinely empathize
with children and families affected by foster care because they have had some
experience with it themselves, just like the Youth In Care Network. Funding is
secondary to our mission and our goals.
It is true
that the Council is not affiliated with any Children’s Aid Society or foster
care organization, legitimate or otherwise, as it is our intention to remain
independent of these agencies because the people who come to work with us, are
usually feeling intimidated and / or vulnerable to them; therefore any
affiliation with them would put our desired relationship of openness and trust
with these individuals at risk.
Once again,
Pierre Viger has stated that neither he, nor his organization (The Children’s
Aid Society of Ottawa-Carleton) have any statutory obligations or requirements
with respect to myself as Executive Director of The Foster Care Council of
Canada, which is a direct violation of the last sentence of section 68 (1) of
the CFSA, which states:
“and
shall make the review procedure available to any person on request.”
Pierre
wrote:
3.
I
am aware that Mr. Dunn received from our Ministry Program Supervisor the
information he required regarding the CFSA sec. 68 complaint procedure of the
Ottawa CAS as it is made available in a pamphlet destined to clients.
Furthermore this information is posted on the Ottawa CAS website and, as such,
it is available to the general public. Mr. Dunn is aware of this web site as he
requested, and was denied, to have a link between his website and our website. I
would not have been able to provide Mr. Dunn, as a member of the general public,
with any information that he did not already have through the above.
My
reply:
As of this
date, (
August 10, 2004
) I have not received a copy of a
complaint procedure from the Ottawa Region of the Ministry of Children and Youth
Services’ Program Supervisor, nor from anyone at this Ministry or any other
Ministry. I do recall making a request for a copy of a CAS complaint procedure
from the Ottawa Regional Office of the Ministry of Children and Youth Services,
only to be told that I must ask for one from the Children’s Aid Society of
Ottawa-Carleton. Pierre Viger then states that “this information is posted on the Ottawa CAS website and, as such, it is
available to the general public.” This is not true. In fact, the
information is not actually on the CAS web site, as of this date (
August 10, 2004
) rather, there are only
instructions on the site which tell the reader that they can request “information about” the complaint procedure when they are not
satisfied with a service rather than actually providing a copy of the procedure
to anyone through their web site as Pierre Viger has falsely stated is done.
Although
they do say that you can make a request for the complaints procedure,
unfortunately, it is evident, that either the CAS, its’ staff, its’
Directors / and or Pierre Viger, or all of the above, use their own discretion
in determining whether to respect or to deny the right of individuals to obtain
a written copy of the complaint procedure, as is mandated in the CFSA Section
68(1). This is the situation in my case, where Pierre Viger has repeatedly
stated in his response to my complaint to the College that he will not, or can
not give me a written complaint procedure for various reasons. (See images
section of this reply)
Pierre
Viger also states, that I am aware of the CAS web site, as I have requested, and
been denied, permission to have a link added to their site, which would link
back to my own web site. It is true that I do know of their web site, and that I
did make this request to have my web site added to their sites’ section called
“Self-Help Groups” located at
http://64.26.166.187/detail_page.cfm?ResourceGuideID=9&SiteLanguage=1
I have not
yet received a reply regarding this matter.
I must also
point out that Pierre Viger states that “it is available to the general public” regarding the complaint
procedure. If this was the case, and with my advanced knowledge of their web
site, why is Pierre Viger saying that they refuse to give me a copy of the
complaint procedure simply because I am not a client of his, or the agency. This
implies that I do not have access to the written complaint procedure, unless I
am a client, and unless I get it through a formal request procedure. It shows
that they have complete control over the dissemination and distribution of this
document, and have made a conscious decision refuse to give me a copy of it
based on their own criterion. (i.e. confidentiality issues, status as client, or
former client)
Pierre
wrote:
4.
In
recent months, I am aware that Mr. Dunn has presented himself as either a
client’s friend or a client’s support person in cases opened with the Ottawa
CAS. I personally sat in on a meeting where Mr. Dunn was acting as a support
person to a client who was undergoing a complaint review. The parameters of Mr.
Dunn’s role as a support person within the context of the client complaint
review process was fully explained to him in my presence by my colleague who was
conducting the review.
My
reply:
It is true
that I have presented myself as either a friend or a support person in cases
opened with the C.A.S. of Ottawa-Carleton. And it is true that I was a friend of
a client in one case, and a support person to another client in another case.
I did meet
Pierre Viger in one of those meetings where I was acting as a support person to
a client of theirs. During that meeting, when the client mentioned the fact that
the Society had not yet produced the access records which the client had to
obtain a court order in order to obtain them from the Society, which is the
clients basic right as a client of the Society to obtain. I started to ask
Marion Roberts, Pierre Viger’s Colleague, in that meeting “Does she have a
right to those reports.”
Marion
Roberts, the Colleague Pierre Viger mentioned, interrupted me and instructed me
that in order for me to speak as a support person, I must ask them (Pierre Viger
and Marion Roberts) to leave first, then I must talk to the client alone, and
then call them back into the room to let the client ask the question of them. I
was never given or shown any policy which stated this, nor any written set of
rules for support persons, so I was not acting arbitrarily. To avoid any
unnecessary retaliation to the client for my questions, I said ‘ok” and
stopped talking. I did however write my question to the client on a piece of
paper asking this client to ask them.
In my
position of working in the Council, I have heard complaints from clients who
have mentioned CAS staff threatening them with supervised access visits and
reduced visit times with their children as a result of them speaking out of turn
or anything similar, so I did not want to endanger this clients visits with her
child as a result of something as trivial as my speaking during a meeting.
Pierre
wrote:
5.
In
one specific case, Mr. Dunn has subjected staff members of the Ottawa C.A.S. to
a barrage of e-mails which were copied, in many instances, to persons in a
position of authority. These e-mails were usually posted by Mr. Dunn on his
website. The issues of concern raised by Mr. Dunn in this case had been
determined by a Court of law. They had also been reviewed through the Ottawa
CAS’s complaint review, up to the Board’s level, as well as by the Office of
Child and Family Service Advocacy. In his e-mails, Mr. Dunn went so far as to
name clients, including a child in care. These practices have put the Ottawa CAS
in a significant dilemma regarding cliet confidentiality and have led to
reassess whether there was any merit in using the e-mail medium in communicating
with Mr. Dunn. As a result of our experience with Mr. Dunn, it was determined
that we would refrain from engaging him in any e-mail correspondence and would
respond to regular mail as appropriate to the circumstances. I understand that
this position is not inconsistent with the position taken by our Ministry in
this case. IHave however been responding to his phone calls as appropriate.
My
reply:
It is true
that I sent many emails to relevant staff, Directors, Executive Directors, The
Minister, Ministry Staff, Program Supervisors and Members of Parliament
regarding this case, as I felt it absolutely imperative to communicate to all
levels of authority the extent of the emotional abuse that this nine year old
girl in their care was suffering (still is and will be) as a direct result of
the C.A.S. of Ottawa-Carleton’s decision to block any further visits with her
natural mother, Grandmother, Brother, her best friend and cousin whom she has
known her whole life and has strong bonds with. Until this time, the Society had
maintained visits between the family and the child because they knew it was
beneficial to the young girl.
This
decision is only being made based on an emotionally abusive legal duty to sever
ties with the family to enable an adoption to take place. An adoption the mother
supported as long as visits were maintained. The relationship is beneficial to
the daughter according to the Access visit supervisor’s reports, her community
members, even the foster parents who met with the CAS to support the birth
mom’s visits, and they were subsequently punished by having the other foster
children in their home removed as a result of them speaking out both in the
mothers favour, and against the tactics used by the CAS in this case without any
regard to the emotional ties these children had established in their community.
Due to the mother’s appeal, the child in question was locked into the foster
home so could not be removed as well.
Also the
people I copied in my various e-mail’s have the ability to view these files as
their position of authority entitles them to do. In my eyes there was no breach
of confidentiality. The CFSA also only states that the identity must not be made
public. I hold great confidence that the people I copied will not release this
information to the public.
I did get
one phone call from Pierre Viger with regard to this case and it is greatly
appreciated that he took the time to discuss with me the issues related to this
case.
Pierre
wrote:
6.
I
had a telephone conversation with Mr. Dunn on May 17th in response to
a voicemail message he had left with me about two particular issues. During this
conversation, I had an opportunity to review with him how reports of child abuse
are received and processed by a CAS and I referred him to the Ministry’s
pamphlet REPORTING CHILD ABUSE AND NEGLECT. I particularly explained to him that
a person making a report under CFSA Sec. 72(1) has a duty to provide the
reasonable grounds on which a reported suspicion is based. He provided me with
the information he had on a particular case and I advised him that it would be
processed as appropriate. He asked how he could ascertain the status of the
investigation. I informed him that CAS’s were not in a position to report back
to the source of a protection concern without proper client consents. I
acknowledged our conversation in a letter on the same day which was sent by
ordinary mail to the mailing address of the Foster Care Council of Canada. (See
enclosed). Further, I advised Mr. Dunn that the Society would not respond to
e-mails in his case but that we would respond to letters sent to us by mail as
appropriate. To the best of my recollection, during the course of this
conversation, Mr. Dunn did not raise the issue of the complaint procedure for
which he filed a complaint against me with the College three days later. I
understand that the Mr. Dunn’s version of this conversation may differ from
mine on some points.
My
reply:
It is true
that we had a telephone conversation which was in response to my voice mail I
left to him. Pierre Viger did review with me how reports of child abuse are
received and processed. And in that discussion he did state to me that when you
are reporting child abuse against the agency itself, that report becomes an
internal investigation called a complaint review. I was upset by this, as anyone
would be, to find out that a report of child abuse against members of the agency
are not taken through the normal intake process, rather they are dealt with as
an internal complaint review. He did tell me that I required “reasonable
grounds” to file a report of abuse, which I did give to him. Those reasonable
grounds were that I had seen in an affidavit created by Stacey Segal, the
girls’ social worker, that the girl was visibly upset when told she was not
going to be able to see her mother anymore. The girl asked if she could still
write letters to her mom, and visit with her Granny only to be ignored and
denied. I also have, as my own reasonable grounds, my own experiences and the
experiences of my brother with how it feels to be separated from those you love
at the hands of the Children’s Aid Society. That pain has stayed with my
brother and I today as adults, and has also caused my brother severe depression
and alcoholism. Their decisions also contributed to the suicide of my birth
mother, Mickey McLeod, who in her suicide note said she was sorry we were
subjected to years of abuse while in foster care, and that she could do nothing
to protect us. This is my own “reasonable grounds” to believe that this girl
is suffering emotional harm due to the actions and decisions of the Ottawa CAS.
Pierre
Viger also mentioned that there are no means for me to follow up on my report of
child abuse to the agency, which was very disturbing, as I will be left
wondering if the child is still being emotionally abused. Pierre Viger did
mention to me that in this girl’s case, he would not be accepting emails from
me, even when I told him I wanted to send a letter to the girl, via email,
informing her of her rights in care. He said that in general they do accept
email from people as a legitimate form of communication, but that in this little
girl’s case, they were making an exception. Although he did say I would need
client consents signed to release information about her to me, there is no way
to contact this girl to ask for her permission to talk with her. Nor will they
tell us the foster parents’ names so we can get permission from them.
He did
however state that I could write a letter via normal post and that they would
then consider whether or not to send it to the girl. I also did not mention this
complaint to the College against him, as this complaint was not lodged until
later, and was totally unrelated to that phone call and case either way.
Pierre
wrote:
7
I
understand that Mr. Dunn has not been satisfied with the Ottawa CAS’s
responses to his various inquiries and that he was frustrated in his attempts to
engage me or other staff members of the Ottawa CAS on his own terms. His
determination in pursuing this course of action is however consistent with the
stated position of the “Foster Care Council of Canada”;
“Where
the Council determines that a child welfare agent is acting arbitrarily or
abusively, the Council will endeavor to initiate positive, sweeping changes to
the practices and attitudes of these professionals, at all levels within the
field, from the front line workers, administrative executives by whatever means
it can manage.” (See enclosed documentation p. 16)
My
reply:
It is true
that I am not satisfied with the Ottawa CAS’s response to my email inquiry,
where I requested a copy of the written complaint procedure and was ignored and
refused a copy, which again is in violation of Section 68(1) of the CFSA.
It is also
true that my course of action is consistent with the stated position of The
Foster Care Council of Canada which is to bring positive changes to the child
welfare system for all children and families involved, and to ensure that rules
are followed by the agencies, their staff and directors which are regulated by
them.
Herein
contains a list of SWSSW Code of Ethics infractions that Pierre Viger has
violated in my opinion.
2)
A social worker or social service worker shall respect the intrinsic
worth of the persons she or he serves in her or his professional relationships
with them;
I
feel that Pierre Viger has violated this section of the Code as denying me
access to a copy of the written complaint procedure makes me feel as if he does
not respect my intrinsic worth as a human being who is simply trying to help
people who are experiencing difficulties in their lives.
3)
A social worker or social service worker shall carry out her or his
professional duties and obligations with integrity and objectivity;
I
do not believe that knowingly and willfully violating section 68(1) of the Child
and Family Services Act is synonymous with carrying out her or his professional
duties and obligations with integrity and objectivity.
8)
A social worker or social service worker shall not provide social work or social
service work services in a manner that discredits the profession of social work
or social service work or diminishes the public’s trust in either profession.
Personally
I have been extremely disappointed in Pierre Viger’s manner of service
delivery to myself in this simple request, and can only wonder how he treats
clients who are requesting much more serious services from him. I am led to
believe by his actions, that this type of behavior is acceptable to the agency
as a whole, since the complaint has also been sent to his superior Barbara
Mackinnon, the Executive Director and a RSW I believe. To me, this looks very
bad and is extremely discrediting to the profession of social work, which is
unfortunate because I know there are lots of people in the service of Social
Work who love their work, and do not wish to be tainted by such negative and
abusive behaviors.
9)
A social worker or social service worker shall advocate for workplace
conditions and policies that are consistent with this Code of Ethics and the
Standards of Practice of the Ontario College of Social Workers and Social
Service Workers;
I
have not yet received any notice, or been made aware of any attempt on Pierre
Viger’s behalf to advocate for conditions and policies that are consistent
with the Colleges’ Code of Ethics and the Standards of Practice of the Ontario
College of Social Workers and Social Service Workers with regard to this matter
of the Society violating Section 68(1) of the CFSA in my case, or the case of
other clients.
10)
A social worker or social service worker shall promote excellence in his
or her respective profession;
11)
A social worker or social service worker shall advocate change in the
best interest of the client, and for the overall benefit of society, the
environment and the global community.
I
personally do not believe that Pierre Viger’s behavior and treatment of me has
the effect of promoting excellence in his profession, nor has he advocated in my
opinion to make change in the best interest of the client, the overall benefit
of society or the global community in perpetuating abusive and illegal
activities.
Violations
of the Social Work and Social Service Work Act, 1998, Ontario Regulation 384/00,
Professional Misconduct in my opinion.
2) Failing to
meet the standards of the profession.
29)
Contravening a federal, provincial or territorial law or a municipal by-law if,
i. the purpose
of the law or by-law is to protect public health
36) Engaging in
conduct or performing an act relevant to the practice of the profession that,
having regard to all circumstances, would reasonably be regarded by members as
disgraceful, dishonourable or unprofessional. O. Reg. 384/00, s. 2.
Violations of the Social Work And Social Service
Work Act, 1998
23.6 (1)
In the
course of practising social
work
or social service work, a professional corporation shall not do, or fail to do,
something that would constitute professional misconduct if a member did, or
failed to do, it. 2001, c. 8, s. 235.
Prohibition,
contraventions
(2)
A professional corporation shall not contravene any
provision of this Act, the regulations or the by-laws. 2001, c. 8, s. 235.
Same
(3)
A professional corporation shall not contravene a term,
condition or limitation imposed on its certificate of authorization. 2001, c. 8,
s. 235.
Complaints
Procedure page of the CAS Ottawa web site: which does not provide a copy of the
written complaint review procedure for download.
Protecting
Children and Youth PDF File on the Ottawa CAS web site with “Complaint
Procedure” instructions. And again, no actual written complaint review process
just instructions on how to obtain it (discretion is being used by Pierre Viger
in deciding who to give the written complaint procedure to.)
( Located
at: http://64.26.166.187/publications/35.pdf
)
(Area of
their web site I requested to have my Self-Help group added to and was ignored)
Original
Complaint Submission sent to the College
I would like to file a complaint against Pierre Viger,
of the Ottawa Children's Aid Society for not providing a complaints
procedure when requested. > document /Telesat/CASOC
received by: |
First
Receipt I got confirming he read my original email request:
Dated May
05 2004
Second
Receipt I got confirming he read my email request with my acknowledgement and
request for response which was again ignored.
Dated May
05th 2004
Third
Receipt I got confirming he read my email request with my acknowledgement and
request for response which was again ignored.
Dated May
06th 2004
Thank-you
for taking the time to review this reply, and I am looking forward to hearing
from you in the near future.
John Dunn