U.K. judge says all citizens, visitors should be in DNA database

Associated Press

LONDON — All British citizens and every visitor to the country should be included on the national DNA database, which is already the world's largest, a senior British judge said Wednesday.

Lord Justice Stephen Sedley said the current database of nearly four million is insufficient, and that ethnic minorities are disproportionately included.

“We have a situation where if you happen to have been in the hands of the police, then your DNA is on permanent record. If you haven't, it isn't. ... That's broadly the picture,” Justice Sedley said in an interview with British Broadcasting Corp.

“It also means that a great many people who are walking the streets, and whose DNA would show them guilty of crimes, go free.”

Former prime minister Tony Blair suggested last year that the database should include all Britons.

Britain's database contains DNA samples from 5.2 per cent of the country's people. The United States, by contrast, has 0.5 per cent of the population on its DNA database, according to the Home Office.

Richard Thomas, the government's information commissioner, said a debate was needed on problems in the system. The database, he noted, now includes samples from 9 per cent of white males but 40 per cent of black males.

However, he was cautious about moving to a universal database.

“This approach can be very intrusive. It raises really fundamental questions about how much the state or the police know about each of us. There are risks of errors or mistakes,” Mr. Thomas told the BBC.

Justice Sedley said there were “very serious but manageable implications” of a universal database, which he said should be used “for the absolutely rigorously restricted purpose of crime detection and prevention.”

Shami Chakrabarti, director of the civil liberties group Liberty, said the debate about expanding the database “reveals just how casual some people have become about the value of personal privacy.”

“A database of those convicted of sexual and violent crime is a perfectly sensible crime-fighting measure,” Mr. Chakrabarti said. “A database of every man, woman and child in the country is a chilling proposal, ripe for indignity, error and abuse.”

 

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Our commentary in the Globe and Mail

September 6, 2007

Ottawa Mens Centre.com, from Ottawa, Canada wrote: DNA is just one form of identification, it just happens to be one of the most reliable. We all have some form of identification we have to produce on an almost daily basis. The opponents of a national inclusive dna database need to show some harm that would result that exceeds the value to society by way of its deterrent value and its value to catch those guilty of serious criminal offences. The proponents need to be very specific on their proposals with safeguards to minimize any possibility of abuse. The government however needs to look at not just DNA in fighting crime. Some of Canada's worst criminals are those who are there to supposedly protect minorities and prevent injustice. They are called judges and lawyers. While we have Ontario Superior Court Judges flagrantly abusing their judicial POWER's we effectively have real crime in family court caused primarily by a dead beat judge. Take Denis the menace in Ottawa, his second name is Power and he knows how to flagrantly abuse it. Power issues restraining orders to prevent another judges order from being carried out. He also strikes pleadings and issues draconian costs orders to permanently end litigation that he knows is meritious but chooses to end illegally for politically correct purposes. Before we embark on a Canadian inclusive dna databank, we need to remember that we have a very serious problem with real crime in family court, its real judges and real lawyers obstructing justice and bringing the administration of justice into not just ill-repute but reducing Canadian Justice to less than that of a third world banana republic dictatorship. http://www.OttawaMensCentre.com 613-797-3237

Posted 06/09/07 at 9:54 AM EDT

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