Accused terrorist conspirator 'enthusiatic' in exchange over detonating bomb: Crown

DON BUTLER

June 20, 2014

Misbahuddin Ahmed, right, leaves the Elgin Street courthouse with lawyer Mark Ertel after the completion of jury selection in Ottawa, Monday, May 12, 2014. Ahmed was arrested in August 2010 on terrorism charges.

Mike Carroccetto / Ottawa Citizen

Misbahuddin Ahmed expressed enthusiasm, not shock, while questioning an alleged co-conspirator about his experience with bombs, Crown prosecutor Jason Wakely alleged as Ahmed’s trial on three terrorism-related charges continued Friday.

In his cross-examination of Ahmed, 24, a former diagnostic imaging technician at The Ottawa Hospital, Wakely focused on an intercepted June 14, 2010, conversation at the other man’s Bayshore apartment.

During that meeting, Ahmed’s alleged co-conspirator, whose name is under a publication ban, pulled a President’s Choice bag containing circuit boards, a transmitter and jihadist literature out of a bedroom closet and began displaying them.

According to transcripts of their conversation, Ahmed said, “Real interesting. But this is nothing though right now.”

In fact, Ahmed testified Friday, “I actually thought it was a bomb.”

When Wakely asked about his “bizarre” response, Ahmed said he was so shocked by what he had been shown, he was “sort of in a daze. I was trying not to appear as nervous as I was inside.”

The prosecutor wasn’t buying it. “You know exactly what this was,” he alleged.

Ahmed denied that, noting that he didn’t take courses in bomb-making in school.

“You were planning to,” Wakely said, referring to discussions Ahmed had had with his alleged co-conspirator about receiving training from militants in Afghanistan.

“No, I was not planning to,” Ahmed responded.

Later in the conversation, Ahmed used coded language to ask the other man what it was like to detonate a bomb.

“In all honesty, you can say I loved it,” his alleged co-conspirator answered, prompting more questions from Ahmed.

“We don’t hear any shock, disgust or horror from you,” Wakely told Ahmed. “We hear enthusiasm.”

Not so, Ahmed answered.

When Wakely suggested he was excited by the conversation, Ahmed replied, “Not exactly. You could call it nervous excitement. I’m just curious about what he did.”

Ahmed agreed the other man wanted him to get training in Afghanistan from someone with expertise in making IEDs.

He repeated his claim that he feigned interest in doing that because he wanted his alleged co-conspirator to arrange travel to Afghanistan so he could see “the opposite side of the war.”

Why not approach an NGO active in that country for help, Wakely asked. Ahmed said that didn’t occur to him.

“You thought a better idea would be to dupe terrorists into thinking you’re coming to join them?” Wakely asked.

“Yes,” said Ahmed.

“You realize how ridiculous that sounds,” Wakely said.

“I couldn’t think of another way of seeing that side of the story,” Ahmed replied.

When Ahmed rejected Wakely’s suggestion that he wanted to join the Taliban in Afghanistan, the Crown prosecutor shot back: “You’re lying, Mr. Ahmed. Your story makes no sense at all.”

Ahmed’s cross-examination continues Monday.

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Commentary by the Ottawa Mens Centre

The Honourable Mr. Peter McKay should direct the AG of Ontario to investigate Ontairo's Number One Terrorist Organization, the Children's Aid Societies of Ontario.

In the City of Ottawa alone, the State Funded Criminals cost Ontario several Billion Dollars.
The Ottawa Police cost $400 Million and the Children's Aid Society of Ottawa around $100 Million dollars most of which is spent on Promoting Violence against Fathers.

The Ottawa Police claim 90% of victims of domestic violence are Female, an absurd claim that is contradicted by almost every other jurisdiction in the western world.

What it means is that ScumBags of Humanity like Det. Peter Van Der Zander can fabricate evidence till the cows come home to protect the most violent Female perpetrators of violence towards children an partners.

The Ottawa Police, the Ottawa Courts are swamped with cases of malicious prosecutions against Male Victims of Domestic Violence.

The Children's Aid Society of Ottawa spends millions of dollars each month in providing Free Legal Services for the Most Violent of Female perpetrators of violence against children and fathers.

Child Protection Workers like Liam Bowman, and the worst in Ottawa Phil Hiltz-Laforge blatantly fabricate evidence and perjure themselves in court to Advocate for Violent women.

The Worst of the Worst of these Criminals are the faceless Supervisors, like the GOD-Father ROB GODMAN who "Supervisors" Criminal Offenses, Child Abuse and Terrorism simply because they believe they have "The Power of God".

Peter McKay should direct an investigation of CAS LAWYERS like MARGUERITE ISOBEL LEWIS who personally fabricates evidence in the Court Room and or TRACEY ENGLEHEART who asks Corrupt Judges like Monique Metiever for exparte orders for custody when the parties have left the court room.

Then at the top of this Criminal Cartel are the Judges like ROBERT MARANGER who "Rubber Stamp" anything the CAS ask and write what ever they think the CAS want without even reading the evidence.

If you want to find an Abused Child in Ottawa, you start with a Child Abusing Child Protection worker and end up with a dead beat corrupt child abusing politically appointed Judge who makes political decisions with a total absence of any legal logic or legal reasoning.

To meet your local Ottawa CAS Terrorists Call ROB GODMAN at (613) 747-7800 Ext 3202

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